Curse

Franco · Oct 11, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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a real trader is like a tiger; sits in the shade untill the right prey springs up at the right time, and takes immidiate action before anything or anyone can react.

^^ Agree 100%. You will only sell an item when someone is willing to buy it, so if there is no one saying W.T.B ***** then no point spamming W.T.S **** for hours.

Superdarth · Oct 12, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Z'HA'DUM

because we are all anonymous on the internet, anyone can be mean to another, and get away with it, the social contact is down to minimum what is very very sad indeed...

That would mean theres alot of humans out there what are mean and cruel deep down,and those who are nice are realy nice,and dont pretend for some stupid reason,considering the amount of rude people though,its not very comforting.

About the sellers,i usually get around just fine,i ask them there price and i buy/not buy it,i hardly haggle,i do somptimes ask to see the item though,mostly to know the stats as the mastermind who sells it dousnt tell me the stats

justadude · Oct 12, 2006, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

Its a common trick to fool the uneducated out of their gold. When a person asks for offers and doesn't respond to PM's it means your offer didn't meet their price. The only time they will reply is when you offer more then they are wanting and then they will come back with a counter offer asking for more. Its a simple trick that fools simple people..NEVER offer, if they don't offer a price just leave them be.

What is even better is when you finally get them to say what they want and they ask for 400 - 500% more than its worth.

When I quoted guru bvase price I once had a guy say that gurus was off. It was now worth what he was saying. Then two other people offered the same thing for list price. I told him I would buy it from them, but wished him good luck.

Basically you can get most everything for a good price if you are willing to wait and dont play into hardcore merchants hands.

justadude · Oct 12, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

That would mean theres alot of humans out there what are mean and cruel deep down,and those who are nice are realy nice,and dont pretend for some stupid reason,considering the amount of rude people though,its not very comforting.

There are a lot of people who have tied much of their ego to this game and the ability to 'win' at this game. The nature of this game (ie Internet) really does afford them the ability to de-humanize the other players. In the interest of their own self worth they then proceed to hardline things like they never would dare irl.

Superdarth · Oct 12, 2006, 11:26 AM // 11:26

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Originally Posted by justadude

There are a lot of people who have tied much of their ego to this game and the ability to 'win' at this game. The nature of this game (ie Internet) really does afford them the ability to de-humanize the other players. In the interest of their own self worth they then proceed to hardline things like they never would dare irl.

Yeah thats my point,folks might say meeting on the internet isnt the same as in real life,but on the internet youre true self shows much more then irl,i hope its not always the folks true self that causes such behaviour...if it dous you know humanity isnt a very nice race.

I dont see whats so fun about making others feel miserable either,and for all the "pwning" they do or claim to do,there are not many whod give them credit for it,so its rather useless to try..

Aki Soyokaze · Oct 12, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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Originally Posted by justadude

There are a lot of people who have tied much of their ego to this game and the ability to 'win' at this game. The nature of this game (ie Internet) really does afford them the ability to de-humanize the other players. In the interest of their own self worth they then proceed to hardline things like they never would dare irl.

Which is exactly why I don't bother to respond to people who are either low-balling or are just trolling. And no I'm not trying to be rude by not responding. I'm simply trying to avoid getting responses that are either people trying to abuse others, know-it-alls who try to tell me what things should be priced, or jerks that like to bother those who are trying to sell their stuff.

The response I got because someone didn't like the price I wanted on something I was selling:

Know-it-all giving his opinion:

Buying Monastery Credits:

So no traders who don't respond aren't being rude. It's just more than likely that we're sick of having to deal with people that want to mouth off. So rather than bother to respond we ignore and move on.

But I'm not going to defend those that think their stuff is 100 times what it should be priced; however when I am willing to accept fair prices, use the trade channel all the time, and don't spam and yet still expected to take this kind of garbage from people you can forgive me for not having much sympathy if someone doesn't page you back because they've rejected your offer.

Cebe · Oct 12, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

I do also feel that this culture of not replying is just really rude also...I saqw it thr other day in Kaineng. "WTS Uber shiny sword of total Uberness...whisper offer. No reply=no deal"...well, with that he just lost any respect from me whatsoever.

I have the answer...unless people post the price they want with their "WTS" I just don't whisper them. It must take so long to sell things that way. I also like the "no noob offers" adverts...ok then...so your "noob offer" woule be what? current market price...and an offer which isn't a "noob offer" would be what? an extra 20k on top of current market price?

I just generally hate the "Guess my Price" traders - most of them just seem rude and obnoxious. If I am selling something, I always post the price I hope to get...If someone whispers me with a lower price I will either say "yea, works for me.." or "sorry mate, was hoping for a bit more"...it doesn't take much to be polite and acknowledge the other person's offer...even if it is to turn them down.